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	<title>Comments on: Sec LaHood and VP Biden to Meet with Governors Today on HSR</title>
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		<title>By: Jay</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jay</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 17:54:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know that you can read much of anything regarding HSR support into the participation of a given governor or the state they represent. e.g. Neither Sonny Perdue nor the Georgia Legislature have been fans or at all supportive of rail initiatives in Georgia - HSR or commuter - nor of fixed mass transit of any sort. More than likely, the feds saw Atlanta and Jesup(Brunswick) as key points in the HSR network and he was invited due to that. However, the good news is that he came back from the meeting with a more encouraging attitude towards HSR .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know that you can read much of anything regarding HSR support into the participation of a given governor or the state they represent. e.g. Neither Sonny Perdue nor the Georgia Legislature have been fans or at all supportive of rail initiatives in Georgia &#8211; HSR or commuter &#8211; nor of fixed mass transit of any sort. More than likely, the feds saw Atlanta and Jesup(Brunswick) as key points in the HSR network and he was invited due to that. However, the good news is that he came back from the meeting with a more encouraging attitude towards HSR .</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 17:15:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait, what about Croton-Harmon to Poughkeepsie?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wait, what about Croton-Harmon to Poughkeepsie?</p>
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		<title>By: Adirondacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adirondacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 05:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;There are no plans to electrify to Albany and beyond, are there&lt;/em&gt;?

There&#039;s a paragraph in the current rail plan about electrifying Poughkeepsie to Albany. It boils down to &quot;someday we&#039;ll think about catenary&quot; Nothing about  cost estimates or proposals to start planning  that I&#039;ve seen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>There are no plans to electrify to Albany and beyond, are there</em>?</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a paragraph in the current rail plan about electrifying Poughkeepsie to Albany. It boils down to &#8220;someday we&#8217;ll think about catenary&#8221; Nothing about  cost estimates or proposals to start planning  that I&#8217;ve seen.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jun 2009 02:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where was Jindal?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where was Jindal?</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/06/03/sec-lahood-and-vp-biden-to-meet-with-governors-today-on-hsr/#comment-1468</link>
		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 17:36:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are no plans to electrify to Albany and beyond, are there?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are no plans to electrify to Albany and beyond, are there?</p>
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		<title>By: Adirondacker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adirondacker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Jun 2009 08:42:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;But it’s not remotely shovel-ready because there has been so little work done on it in the past.&lt;/em&gt;

There&#039;s all sorts of things that have been done in the past. 40 years ago it took 4 hours to get from Grand Central to Albany. You couldn&#039;t get from Penn Station to Albany. Trip takes two and half hours now.

The project for a second track between Albany and Schenectady is very well along, it&#039;s just waiting for funding. There&#039;s all sorts of things going on between Albany and Montreal, dump some money in Canadian Pacific&#039;s lap and they could be sped up.  Adding a third track between Albany and Buffalo along a ROW that is already 4 tracks wide is CSX&#039;s and Amtrak&#039;s wet dream. I&#039;m sure they at least have plans that are far along for passing sidings.  I think improved signaling between Albany and New York is being done if it&#039;s isn&#039;t already complete... Lots of stuff in NY, it&#039;s just that none of it is spectacular.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>But it’s not remotely shovel-ready because there has been so little work done on it in the past.</em></p>
<p>There&#8217;s all sorts of things that have been done in the past. 40 years ago it took 4 hours to get from Grand Central to Albany. You couldn&#8217;t get from Penn Station to Albany. Trip takes two and half hours now.</p>
<p>The project for a second track between Albany and Schenectady is very well along, it&#8217;s just waiting for funding. There&#8217;s all sorts of things going on between Albany and Montreal, dump some money in Canadian Pacific&#8217;s lap and they could be sped up.  Adding a third track between Albany and Buffalo along a ROW that is already 4 tracks wide is CSX&#8217;s and Amtrak&#8217;s wet dream. I&#8217;m sure they at least have plans that are far along for passing sidings.  I think improved signaling between Albany and New York is being done if it&#8217;s isn&#8217;t already complete&#8230; Lots of stuff in NY, it&#8217;s just that none of it is spectacular.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Jun 2009 17:18:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>New York is, shall we say, a bit dysfunctional.  I wouldn&#039;t read anything into their absence; New York is serious about the Empire Corridor, but they aren&#039;t *organized* because they only just started being serious about it.  (Politically, the Democrats currently are crucially focused on winning upstate seats in the State Senate -- this controls the balance of power -- and shoving high-speed rail to upstate is a natural &#039;Democratic&#039; way to do so.) But it&#039;s not remotely shovel-ready because there has been so little work done on it in the past.

Minnesota, it&#039;s clear, is waiting for Pawlenty to leave.

The missing state which stands out to me is Indiana.  It&#039;s the critical link between Chicago and Michigan and between Chicago and the East (including Ohio).  I&#039;m afraid improvements in Indiana may have to be funded entirely  by the federal government and by neighboring states, with a 0% local match.  If so, expect no stations in Indiana!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>New York is, shall we say, a bit dysfunctional.  I wouldn&#8217;t read anything into their absence; New York is serious about the Empire Corridor, but they aren&#8217;t *organized* because they only just started being serious about it.  (Politically, the Democrats currently are crucially focused on winning upstate seats in the State Senate &#8212; this controls the balance of power &#8212; and shoving high-speed rail to upstate is a natural &#8216;Democratic&#8217; way to do so.) But it&#8217;s not remotely shovel-ready because there has been so little work done on it in the past.</p>
<p>Minnesota, it&#8217;s clear, is waiting for Pawlenty to leave.</p>
<p>The missing state which stands out to me is Indiana.  It&#8217;s the critical link between Chicago and Michigan and between Chicago and the East (including Ohio).  I&#8217;m afraid improvements in Indiana may have to be funded entirely  by the federal government and by neighboring states, with a 0% local match.  If so, expect no stations in Indiana!</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 02:10:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Woody-

I think Rahm Emmanuel might have come up with that number. I know it wasn&#039;t put in until the final conference negotiations between the house, senate, and white house.

Remember too that Ben Nelson, Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe, and Susan Collins were all holding us hostage with their votes in terms of keeping the overall numbers down.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Woody-</p>
<p>I think Rahm Emmanuel might have come up with that number. I know it wasn&#8217;t put in until the final conference negotiations between the house, senate, and white house.</p>
<p>Remember too that Ben Nelson, Arlen Specter, Olympia Snowe, and Susan Collins were all holding us hostage with their votes in terms of keeping the overall numbers down.</p>
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		<title>By: t1ewis</title>
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		<dc:creator>t1ewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 00:22:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adam-

while i don&#039;t disagree about the thing with Amtrak and do in other areas.  first off how he&#039;s done almost nothing for transportation funding in VA during his term.  VA as a whole needs it but Hampton Roads needs it the worst.  he comes up with this little hair brained half***ed plan to fund transportation and it&#039;s shot down with the rest of the actual good ideas at the GA.  now that he ran his nose up Obama&#039;s butt (no offense) like a credit card so he could get his little position in the DNC, now he want&#039;s to put on his cape?  truth be told he should just finish up his few months silently while hopefully somebody with some with a pair can come along and possibly (big possibly) make a better effort</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adam-</p>
<p>while i don&#8217;t disagree about the thing with Amtrak and do in other areas.  first off how he&#8217;s done almost nothing for transportation funding in VA during his term.  VA as a whole needs it but Hampton Roads needs it the worst.  he comes up with this little hair brained half***ed plan to fund transportation and it&#8217;s shot down with the rest of the actual good ideas at the GA.  now that he ran his nose up Obama&#8217;s butt (no offense) like a credit card so he could get his little position in the DNC, now he want&#8217;s to put on his cape?  truth be told he should just finish up his few months silently while hopefully somebody with some with a pair can come along and possibly (big possibly) make a better effort</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jun 2009 23:29:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean asks, Why only $8 billion? Well, when Bush was President that seemed like a bodacious amount for HSR. When Obama and Biden took over, they didn&#039;t have anything from the previous administration to use, so they probably grabbed a number from John Kerry. They improved it by not making it bonds but an outright appropriation. Better if they had used the $23 billion total in Kerry&#039;s bill, but such is life.

&quot;National Association of Railroad Passengers
Nov 21, 2008: Hotline #580

Sens. John Kerry (D-MA) and Arlen Specter (R-PA) introduced S. 3700, the High-Speed Rail for America Act of 2008, on November 19. The bill would create an Office of High-Speed Rail within the FRA ... to guide federal high-speed rail policy ...  Specifically, S. 3700 would authorize $8 billion in tax-exempt bonds and $15.4 billion in tax-credit bonds that would go towards worthy HSR investments. The bill also calls for a Department of Treasury study on potential “excise taxes” to “offset expenses” related to HSR....&quot;

I don&#039;t know where Kerry got $8 billion, or $23 billion for that matter. But after eight years of 0, that is, zero, even a mere $8 billion looked pretty good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean asks, Why only $8 billion? Well, when Bush was President that seemed like a bodacious amount for HSR. When Obama and Biden took over, they didn&#8217;t have anything from the previous administration to use, so they probably grabbed a number from John Kerry. They improved it by not making it bonds but an outright appropriation. Better if they had used the $23 billion total in Kerry&#8217;s bill, but such is life.</p>
<p>&#8220;National Association of Railroad Passengers<br />
Nov 21, 2008: Hotline #580</p>
<p>Sens. John Kerry (D-MA) and Arlen Specter (R-PA) introduced S. 3700, the High-Speed Rail for America Act of 2008, on November 19. The bill would create an Office of High-Speed Rail within the FRA &#8230; to guide federal high-speed rail policy &#8230;  Specifically, S. 3700 would authorize $8 billion in tax-exempt bonds and $15.4 billion in tax-credit bonds that would go towards worthy HSR investments. The bill also calls for a Department of Treasury study on potential “excise taxes” to “offset expenses” related to HSR&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know where Kerry got $8 billion, or $23 billion for that matter. But after eight years of 0, that is, zero, even a mere $8 billion looked pretty good.</p>
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