Comments on: Ballot Measures Force Commuters to Evaluate Transit Projects First-Hand http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/11/03/ballot-measures-force-commuters-to-evaluate-transit-projects-first-hand/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:43:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Alon Levy http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/11/03/ballot-measures-force-commuters-to-evaluate-transit-projects-first-hand/#comment-14465 Alon Levy Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:40:52 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=4482#comment-14465 West Virginia, and Kentucky. Amtrak isn't allowed to operate service Chicago-Indianapolis-Louisville because it's too short to qualify for federal subsidies, but it's allowed to operate service Chicago-Indianapolis-Cincinnati-suburban Kentucky-Washington. West Virginia, and Kentucky. Amtrak isn’t allowed to operate service Chicago-Indianapolis-Louisville because it’s too short to qualify for federal subsidies, but it’s allowed to operate service Chicago-Indianapolis-Cincinnati-suburban Kentucky-Washington.

]]> By: Nathanael http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/11/03/ballot-measures-force-commuters-to-evaluate-transit-projects-first-hand/#comment-14463 Nathanael Thu, 05 Nov 2009 04:28:19 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=4482#comment-14463 A number of people believe that the Cardinal exists for the following reasons: (1) To shuttle equipment to Amtrak's shops in Beech Grove, outside Indianapolis. Which was a crazy place for Amtrak to retain shops, but that decision was made back in the 1970s.... (2) To get votes from West Virginia. It has a crazy short consist -- plus a bunch of empty cars being moved to and from the shops.... A number of people believe that the Cardinal exists for the following reasons:
(1) To shuttle equipment to Amtrak’s shops in Beech Grove, outside Indianapolis. Which was a crazy place for Amtrak to retain shops, but that decision was made back in the 1970s….
(2) To get votes from West Virginia.

It has a crazy short consist — plus a bunch of empty cars being moved to and from the shops….

]]> By: Matt Roberts http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/11/03/ballot-measures-force-commuters-to-evaluate-transit-projects-first-hand/#comment-14356 Matt Roberts Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:27:16 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=4482#comment-14356 Interesting that the Cincy amendment failed, it looked pretty badly written, even to the point when I looked up the results this morning the headlines made it look like it was a vote against transit. One of the TV station sites said 'Issue 9: Cincinnati Mass Transit Fails' . That makes it sound like voters rejected transit planning for Cincy. Considering that it also appeared that the wording would hamper the 3-C as well as any future HSR for the area I am glad it failed. One thing to remember is that with Ohio being in the middle of Chicago and the East Coast if Amtrak is only interested in serving those two termini at the optimal time (daylight) we in Ohio will always be left in the dark trying to connect to the once daily round trips for the Cardinal, the Lake Shore or the Capitol Limited between 1 and 4 in the morning. Interesting that the Cincy amendment failed, it looked pretty badly written, even to the point when I looked up the results this morning the headlines made it look like it was a vote against transit. One of the TV station sites said ‘Issue 9: Cincinnati Mass Transit Fails’ . That makes it sound like voters rejected transit planning for Cincy. Considering that it also appeared that the wording would hamper the 3-C as well as any future HSR for the area I am glad it failed.

One thing to remember is that with Ohio being in the middle of Chicago and the East Coast if Amtrak is only interested in serving those two termini at the optimal time (daylight) we in Ohio will always be left in the dark trying to connect to the once daily round trips for the Cardinal, the Lake Shore or the Capitol Limited between 1 and 4 in the morning.

]]> By: Loren Petrich http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/11/03/ballot-measures-force-commuters-to-evaluate-transit-projects-first-hand/#comment-14355 Loren Petrich Wed, 04 Nov 2009 13:12:00 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=4482#comment-14355 The Northern Indiana proposal was defeated 80% - 20%: http://nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/article_8e347474-c64e-57a2-8ea8-bf3fedf8346e.html The Northern Indiana proposal was defeated 80% – 20%:

http://nwitimes.com/news/local/porter/article_8e347474-c64e-57a2-8ea8-bf3fedf8346e.html

]]> By: Loren Petrich http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/11/03/ballot-measures-force-commuters-to-evaluate-transit-projects-first-hand/#comment-14303 Loren Petrich Wed, 04 Nov 2009 04:35:30 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=4482#comment-14303 As of this writing, the Cincinnati proposition has been defeated, 56% - 44%, with 93% of precincts reporting http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20091103/NEWS0108/311030020/Voters+reject+city+rail+amendment No news on the Northern Indiana measure, however. As of this writing, the Cincinnati proposition has been defeated, 56% – 44%, with 93% of precincts reporting

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20091103/NEWS0108/311030020/Voters+reject+city+rail+amendment

No news on the Northern Indiana measure, however.

]]> By: Woody http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/11/03/ballot-measures-force-commuters-to-evaluate-transit-projects-first-hand/#comment-14280 Woody Wed, 04 Nov 2009 00:40:13 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=4482#comment-14280 What is it indeed? Cincinnati also doesn't want to be bothered putting the station for the proposed 3 C's trains where passengers can connect with Amtrak's Cardinal. Not trying to be vindictive, but if I were King of Amtrak, I'd go where I could feel more wanted: I'd shut down the loser Cardinal and use the equipment instead to serve Detroit and Toledo and Cleveland and Pittsburgh in daylight. What is it indeed? Cincinnati also doesn’t want to be bothered putting the station for the proposed 3 C’s trains where passengers can connect with Amtrak’s Cardinal.

Not trying to be vindictive, but if I were King of Amtrak, I’d go where I could feel more wanted: I’d shut down the loser Cardinal and use the equipment instead to serve Detroit and Toledo and Cleveland and Pittsburgh in daylight.

]]> By: jon http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2009/11/03/ballot-measures-force-commuters-to-evaluate-transit-projects-first-hand/#comment-14249 jon Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:07:16 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=4482#comment-14249 what is it with opposition to rail in cincinnati? it has such a long history of opposition and killing rail projects. what is it with opposition to rail in cincinnati? it has such a long history of opposition and killing rail projects.

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