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	<title>Comments on: High-Speed Rail Grants Announced; California, Florida, and Illinois Are Lucky Recipients</title>
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		<title>By: Hartmut Sadrozinski</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/01/28/high-speed-rail-grants-announced-california-florida-and-illinois-are-lucky-recipients/#comment-99489</link>
		<dc:creator>Hartmut Sadrozinski</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Nov 2010 06:19:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must confess that during the last two weeks of this particular particularly unhinged election bike, despite the brief mental refreshment I experienced in the Restoring Sanity Rally upon Saturday, I have once again begun to suss out suitable caves inside Northwest Territories of Canada to i always can retire and reduce the intellectual and moral potato sack sprint to the bottom that is our own national political conversation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must confess that during the last two weeks of this particular particularly unhinged election bike, despite the brief mental refreshment I experienced in the Restoring Sanity Rally upon Saturday, I have once again begun to suss out suitable caves inside Northwest Territories of Canada to i always can retire and reduce the intellectual and moral potato sack sprint to the bottom that is our own national political conversation.</p>
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		<title>By: Auld Sodger</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/01/28/high-speed-rail-grants-announced-california-florida-and-illinois-are-lucky-recipients/#comment-92817</link>
		<dc:creator>Auld Sodger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Oct 2010 01:10:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clarence.  Glad you have finally gotten your terminology straightened out.  

Have you ever thought about why a country such as Germany, already with an operational MagLev test/demonstration facility, does not have a commercial application in place?  It is because the costs outweigh the benefit.  When MagLev was first being developed (here in the US, btw) the current thinking was that conventional steel on steel technology was maxing out around 100-110 mph  -- which turned out not to be the case. Combine this with the fact that HSR can use existing conventional rail infrastructure, to include tunnels and access to center city, and MagLev essentially became obsolete before it was ever built.  

When I was in Munich in Sept of 2007 an all-star consortium has just announced a MagLev line between the Munich Hbf and the Airport -- in spite of the fact that there were already two conventional rail lines connecting the two.  The consortium included TransRapid, Krupt, Siemens, DB, the German Federal Govt, the state of Bavaria and the city of Munich. They had a MagLev operational unit from the TransRapid test facility in a station mock-up at the airport and a bunch of multi-lingual young ladies explaining how great it was going to be and that it would be operational by Dec of 2008!  I was impressed because I knew that when I was back in Sept of 2009 I would get chance to ride it.  Well, when I was back in Sept 2008 (I go every year for Oktoberfest) there was no sign of construction anywhere and the mock station with a MagLev vehicle was gone.  When I inquired I was told that not too long after I was there that the consortium had decided that they could not justify building it and they had to stuff their national, state and city pride and cancel the project.  One explanation I heard was that for about a penny on the Euro the two existing conventional lines could be upgraded to offer a level of service approaching that of MagLev.

However, I do think that eventually there will be a role for MagLev.  It will come when our Mega-Regions (see, e.g., Neal Pierce) are all laced with conventional HSR and the need begins to rise to connect the MRs.  For those relatively close together, and with significant population in between, it will be more conventional HSR.  However, in some of the more distant western MR, it could be MagLev that will connect them.  And they will likely built by what we now call the airlines.  Of course, the great thing about making such predictions is that neither of us will live long enough to know the outcomes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clarence.  Glad you have finally gotten your terminology straightened out.  </p>
<p>Have you ever thought about why a country such as Germany, already with an operational MagLev test/demonstration facility, does not have a commercial application in place?  It is because the costs outweigh the benefit.  When MagLev was first being developed (here in the US, btw) the current thinking was that conventional steel on steel technology was maxing out around 100-110 mph  &#8212; which turned out not to be the case. Combine this with the fact that HSR can use existing conventional rail infrastructure, to include tunnels and access to center city, and MagLev essentially became obsolete before it was ever built.  </p>
<p>When I was in Munich in Sept of 2007 an all-star consortium has just announced a MagLev line between the Munich Hbf and the Airport &#8212; in spite of the fact that there were already two conventional rail lines connecting the two.  The consortium included TransRapid, Krupt, Siemens, DB, the German Federal Govt, the state of Bavaria and the city of Munich. They had a MagLev operational unit from the TransRapid test facility in a station mock-up at the airport and a bunch of multi-lingual young ladies explaining how great it was going to be and that it would be operational by Dec of 2008!  I was impressed because I knew that when I was back in Sept of 2009 I would get chance to ride it.  Well, when I was back in Sept 2008 (I go every year for Oktoberfest) there was no sign of construction anywhere and the mock station with a MagLev vehicle was gone.  When I inquired I was told that not too long after I was there that the consortium had decided that they could not justify building it and they had to stuff their national, state and city pride and cancel the project.  One explanation I heard was that for about a penny on the Euro the two existing conventional lines could be upgraded to offer a level of service approaching that of MagLev.</p>
<p>However, I do think that eventually there will be a role for MagLev.  It will come when our Mega-Regions (see, e.g., Neal Pierce) are all laced with conventional HSR and the need begins to rise to connect the MRs.  For those relatively close together, and with significant population in between, it will be more conventional HSR.  However, in some of the more distant western MR, it could be MagLev that will connect them.  And they will likely built by what we now call the airlines.  Of course, the great thing about making such predictions is that neither of us will live long enough to know the outcomes.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/01/28/high-speed-rail-grants-announced-california-florida-and-illinois-are-lucky-recipients/#comment-52238</link>
		<dc:creator>Clarence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jul 2010 04:28:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Don Kirk.  The high speed Maglev Monorail system is the passenger train of the future.  One that can be improved over the coming years as technology improves.  A high speed Maglev train system would connect the cities in this country in ways that the airlines cannot.

If we build a National Maglev Monorail Train System and put low cost rechargable electric rental cars at every station, we would have a new world class transportation system. A system that would transport hundreds of thousands of people each day.  A system that would create tens of thousands of career jobs and at the same time have almost no carbon footprint.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Don Kirk.  The high speed Maglev Monorail system is the passenger train of the future.  One that can be improved over the coming years as technology improves.  A high speed Maglev train system would connect the cities in this country in ways that the airlines cannot.</p>
<p>If we build a National Maglev Monorail Train System and put low cost rechargable electric rental cars at every station, we would have a new world class transportation system. A system that would transport hundreds of thousands of people each day.  A system that would create tens of thousands of career jobs and at the same time have almost no carbon footprint.</p>
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		<title>By: Adirondacker12800</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adirondacker12800</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 01:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Pennsylvania Railroad did 175 MPH tests back in the 60s... Even Amtrak does 150 now and then in Rhode Island.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Pennsylvania Railroad did 175 MPH tests back in the 60s&#8230; Even Amtrak does 150 now and then in Rhode Island.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Wyss</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/01/28/high-speed-rail-grants-announced-california-florida-and-illinois-are-lucky-recipients/#comment-51349</link>
		<dc:creator>Max Wyss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 21:30:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... definitely 40 years ol Popular Mechanics... or, actually, more 50 years old...

The 200 mph record with a dedicated test train occurred 55 years ago, between Bordeaux and Dax, in the Landes...

nevertheless, those posts give me a chuckle...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; definitely 40 years ol Popular Mechanics&#8230; or, actually, more 50 years old&#8230;</p>
<p>The 200 mph record with a dedicated test train occurred 55 years ago, between Bordeaux and Dax, in the Landes&#8230;</p>
<p>nevertheless, those posts give me a chuckle&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Don Kirk</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/01/28/high-speed-rail-grants-announced-california-florida-and-illinois-are-lucky-recipients/#comment-51342</link>
		<dc:creator>Don Kirk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 19:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>High Speed Maglev is Monorail; and it&#039;s quitier than steel to steel rail, climbs steeper grades and by far the fastest way to travel.  Maglev Monorails also use less power than (HSR) High Speed Rail; and requires &quot;NO&quot; helper locomotives to get over steep climbs.

There&#039;s a place for every type of Transportation Mode; and neither the LV - LA route, nor the SF - LA route would be best served by steel wheel to steel rail HSR 

A new public transportation speakers bureau was recently formed; and it&#039;s members &quot;all&quot; believe that there are places for LR, Monorail, HSR and Maglev; but when climbing over steep mountains, of the ones we asked, almost everone agrees that Maglev would best serve those two routes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>High Speed Maglev is Monorail; and it&#8217;s quitier than steel to steel rail, climbs steeper grades and by far the fastest way to travel.  Maglev Monorails also use less power than (HSR) High Speed Rail; and requires &#8220;NO&#8221; helper locomotives to get over steep climbs.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a place for every type of Transportation Mode; and neither the LV &#8211; LA route, nor the SF &#8211; LA route would be best served by steel wheel to steel rail HSR </p>
<p>A new public transportation speakers bureau was recently formed; and it&#8217;s members &#8220;all&#8221; believe that there are places for LR, Monorail, HSR and Maglev; but when climbing over steep mountains, of the ones we asked, almost everone agrees that Maglev would best serve those two routes.</p>
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		<title>By: Adirondacker12800</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adirondacker12800</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>and trains run at 186 MPH all over the world in regular revenue service. Some of them at 220 in regular revenue service. Just like a conventional train that attains 220 won&#039;t average 220 the vaporware 300 MPH monorail won&#039;t average 300 MPH either. Put down the antique magazines...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>and trains run at 186 MPH all over the world in regular revenue service. Some of them at 220 in regular revenue service. Just like a conventional train that attains 220 won&#8217;t average 220 the vaporware 300 MPH monorail won&#8217;t average 300 MPH either. Put down the antique magazines&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Adirondacker12800</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adirondacker12800</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:14:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Again, put down the 40 year old Popular Mechanix. Monorails have been just around the corner of attaining higher speeds since the 60s. They&#039;ve been putting birail trains on elevated since the 1860s has all the advantages of elevated monorails and it&#039;s a mature technology.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Again, put down the 40 year old Popular Mechanix. Monorails have been just around the corner of attaining higher speeds since the 60s. They&#8217;ve been putting birail trains on elevated since the 1860s has all the advantages of elevated monorails and it&#8217;s a mature technology.</p>
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		<title>By: Clarence</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clarence</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 18:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Adirondacker,what have you been smoking?  Just because a high speed ground train reaches 200+ mph in a test run does not mean that it will average 200 mph.  The modern monorail has the potential for even greater speeds.  Once our scientists and engineers began to seriously consider such a system, the monorail will reach speeds of 300+ mph.  Also, the elevated monorail reduces the possibility for railroad crossing accidents, animals on the tracks and weather delays caused by snow and floods.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Adirondacker,what have you been smoking?  Just because a high speed ground train reaches 200+ mph in a test run does not mean that it will average 200 mph.  The modern monorail has the potential for even greater speeds.  Once our scientists and engineers began to seriously consider such a system, the monorail will reach speeds of 300+ mph.  Also, the elevated monorail reduces the possibility for railroad crossing accidents, animals on the tracks and weather delays caused by snow and floods.</p>
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		<title>By: John W</title>
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		<dc:creator>John W</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 05 Jul 2010 11:29:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Damn. And I was going to suggest that these monorail trains could be designed so that they can transform into giant robots. Robots that can fight! And then we wouldn&#039;t need the DOT to eventually scrounge up funding as the Army would throw money at the project.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Damn. And I was going to suggest that these monorail trains could be designed so that they can transform into giant robots. Robots that can fight! And then we wouldn&#8217;t need the DOT to eventually scrounge up funding as the Army would throw money at the project.</p>
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