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	<title>Comments on: For 2011, FTA Shifts Focus Away from Project Cost-Effectiveness Index and Towards Local Financing Commitment</title>
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		<title>By: GRL</title>
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		<dc:creator>GRL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;a rail line a bit deeper into its sprawl belt&quot;

Point of order #1: The area that Phase II services has been built up since the 1970s, and is located entirely within the city limits of Sacramento. It also isn&#039;t area that would be considered well-off economically. The actual sprawl belt would not be served until Phase III.

&quot;more urban projects...where land use and local support are more favorable&quot;

I&#039;ll avoid commenting on local support, but you wouldn&#039;t like any of the other proposals in terms of land use. The other major proposal, the Green/DNA Line, has about the same number of planned trips per day, into an area that was the product of very recent sprawl. The same point applies to the (already funded in part) West Sacramento streetcars. Even in the most optimistic plan, the only proposal that is deeply &quot;urban&quot; is for streetcars in East Sacramento.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;a rail line a bit deeper into its sprawl belt&#8221;</p>
<p>Point of order #1: The area that Phase II services has been built up since the 1970s, and is located entirely within the city limits of Sacramento. It also isn&#8217;t area that would be considered well-off economically. The actual sprawl belt would not be served until Phase III.</p>
<p>&#8220;more urban projects&#8230;where land use and local support are more favorable&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;ll avoid commenting on local support, but you wouldn&#8217;t like any of the other proposals in terms of land use. The other major proposal, the Green/DNA Line, has about the same number of planned trips per day, into an area that was the product of very recent sprawl. The same point applies to the (already funded in part) West Sacramento streetcars. Even in the most optimistic plan, the only proposal that is deeply &#8220;urban&#8221; is for streetcars in East Sacramento.</p>
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		<title>By: Max Wyss</title>
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		<dc:creator>Max Wyss</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 18:00:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One question is whether there are enough instruments to provide a sustainable financing. A sustainable financing requires that, once the instruments are in place, they won&#039;t be overturned &quot;just because some dude does not like them&quot;. And that means a strong political will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One question is whether there are enough instruments to provide a sustainable financing. A sustainable financing requires that, once the instruments are in place, they won&#8217;t be overturned &#8220;just because some dude does not like them&#8221;. And that means a strong political will.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 15:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Focusing on sustainable local finance seems like a wise choice. The cost-effectiveness index encourages agencies to play games with ridership forecasts, and the new focus on &quot;livability&quot; and &quot;economic development&quot; is essentially unmeasurable by any objective standard (or certainly any that I&#039;ve ever seen).

I&#039;m also happy to see an emphasis placed on whether there is sustainable long term financing for operations - Washington&#039;s metro is an excellent example of a high quality capital asset with absolutely deplorable maintenance and operations.

The Indian government simply funds 50% of the cost of new urban rail projects (or has committed to do so).  The logic seems clear - if the city state is willing to fund 50% of a large project, there must be sufficient merit to it.  A simple standard like this would also save the nightmarish amount of time required to secure a FFGA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Focusing on sustainable local finance seems like a wise choice. The cost-effectiveness index encourages agencies to play games with ridership forecasts, and the new focus on &#8220;livability&#8221; and &#8220;economic development&#8221; is essentially unmeasurable by any objective standard (or certainly any that I&#8217;ve ever seen).</p>
<p>I&#8217;m also happy to see an emphasis placed on whether there is sustainable long term financing for operations &#8211; Washington&#8217;s metro is an excellent example of a high quality capital asset with absolutely deplorable maintenance and operations.</p>
<p>The Indian government simply funds 50% of the cost of new urban rail projects (or has committed to do so).  The logic seems clear &#8211; if the city state is willing to fund 50% of a large project, there must be sufficient merit to it.  A simple standard like this would also save the nightmarish amount of time required to secure a FFGA.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrett at HumanTransit.org</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jarrett at HumanTransit.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 11:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The increased emphasis on local support could, of course,  be a positive.  It will tend to benefit bigger, denser cities whose lines are likely to have higher patronage. 

I&#039;m not sure I understand why I&#039;m supposed to be sad about Sacramento.  I have nothing against Sacramento in particular, but extending a rail line a bit deeper into its sprawl belt could legitimately not stack up against more urban projects, in Sacramento and elsewhere, where land use and local support are more favorable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The increased emphasis on local support could, of course,  be a positive.  It will tend to benefit bigger, denser cities whose lines are likely to have higher patronage. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not sure I understand why I&#8217;m supposed to be sad about Sacramento.  I have nothing against Sacramento in particular, but extending a rail line a bit deeper into its sprawl belt could legitimately not stack up against more urban projects, in Sacramento and elsewhere, where land use and local support are more favorable.</p>
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		<title>By: David "Buster" Fitzpatrick</title>
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		<dc:creator>David "Buster" Fitzpatrick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 04:24:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do agree with the previous letter that we need to not only shift funding away from things as the military and new roads but also create a new funding source to the tune $8-9 billion a year to help the transit agencies from being forced to raise fares and cut service. Otherwise I fear we coud see a repeat episode of what happened to the passenger train/urban rail transit industry in the 1930&#039;s-&#039;60&#039;s when they were privatly owned and funded and had to compete against automobiles and busses that ran on government subsidised road infrastructure. Also I feel that there should be a national law prohibiting siphoning off funds intended for public transit, passenger trains, public services, the arts, homeless programs,etc., for purposes they were not intended including paying off state&#039;s deficits.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do agree with the previous letter that we need to not only shift funding away from things as the military and new roads but also create a new funding source to the tune $8-9 billion a year to help the transit agencies from being forced to raise fares and cut service. Otherwise I fear we coud see a repeat episode of what happened to the passenger train/urban rail transit industry in the 1930&#8242;s-&#8217;60&#8242;s when they were privatly owned and funded and had to compete against automobiles and busses that ran on government subsidised road infrastructure. Also I feel that there should be a national law prohibiting siphoning off funds intended for public transit, passenger trains, public services, the arts, homeless programs,etc., for purposes they were not intended including paying off state&#8217;s deficits.</p>
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		<title>By: Joseph E</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joseph E</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is good politics for the Obama administration, but not the best policy. By funding projects with high local matches, the FTA is able to help build more projects and larger systems than if it were to match funds at 80%. However, the amount of money is still the same. 

This will help cities and regions able to raise the millions needed to more than match federal funds, but some of the most needed transit projects may be left out due to lack of local funding ability. In the long run, certain cities and regions may be unfairly left out.

The best solution would be to greatly increase the annual budget for transit capital projects. Lets take away funding from military weapons programs and highway projects, and give it to transit. Imagine if every cost-effective transit project got 80% funding from the feds. I know Los Angeles has plenty of plans in the future which could be funded NOW if that sort of match was available.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is good politics for the Obama administration, but not the best policy. By funding projects with high local matches, the FTA is able to help build more projects and larger systems than if it were to match funds at 80%. However, the amount of money is still the same. </p>
<p>This will help cities and regions able to raise the millions needed to more than match federal funds, but some of the most needed transit projects may be left out due to lack of local funding ability. In the long run, certain cities and regions may be unfairly left out.</p>
<p>The best solution would be to greatly increase the annual budget for transit capital projects. Lets take away funding from military weapons programs and highway projects, and give it to transit. Imagine if every cost-effective transit project got 80% funding from the feds. I know Los Angeles has plenty of plans in the future which could be funded NOW if that sort of match was available.</p>
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		<title>By: Rodrigo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rodrigo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 16:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imagine all the new transit projects we&#039;d have under construction right now if Congress would give more money to transit and less to highways. Such a shame...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imagine all the new transit projects we&#8217;d have under construction right now if Congress would give more money to transit and less to highways. Such a shame&#8230;</p>
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