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	<title>Comments on: Rail and Transit Benefit, Highways Lose Out in TIGER Grant Distribution</title>
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		<title>By: DBEtoday —MWBE-SBE Urban Circulator Grants Promise Better Rail and Bus Service to a Select Group of Cities</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/02/17/rail-and-transit-benefit-highways-lose-out-in-tiger-grant-distribution/#comment-51780</link>
		<dc:creator>DBEtoday —MWBE-SBE Urban Circulator Grants Promise Better Rail and Bus Service to a Select Group of Cities</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jul 2010 15:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] by Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood last December in a visit to New Orleans. Like the TIGER program, whose first awards were introduced earlier this year, this program represents an effort by the DOT [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] by Secretary of Transportation Ray LaHood last December in a visit to New Orleans. Like the TIGER program, whose first awards were introduced earlier this year, this program represents an effort by the DOT [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lacy Toten</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lacy Toten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jul 2010 03:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All I can say is at least you have a fairly decent transit system.

Coming from Scotland I can tell you that you have it 10 times better than I did.  From trains once an hour (if that) to buses that you could swear were non existant I think your system is pretty good.

I understand that there is always room for improvement, but this will never happen 100% when there is other factors to take into the equation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All I can say is at least you have a fairly decent transit system.</p>
<p>Coming from Scotland I can tell you that you have it 10 times better than I did.  From trains once an hour (if that) to buses that you could swear were non existant I think your system is pretty good.</p>
<p>I understand that there is always room for improvement, but this will never happen 100% when there is other factors to take into the equation.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 08:03:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That is, however, relatively new.  (Railways *used* to pay fuel tax.)

Anyway, the CREATE funding is welcome.  The most critical part of CREATE (Englewood Flyover) was funded through the HSR funds.  This funds some other valuable bits.  Unfortunately it does not fund the two other major passenger projects (One is Grand Crossing; the other is the extensive rearrangement of the Belt Railway corridor so that along with freight enhancements Metra Southwest Service has an exclusive passenger path leading into the Rock Island corridor and LaSalle Street Station, freeing up slots in Union Station.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That is, however, relatively new.  (Railways *used* to pay fuel tax.)</p>
<p>Anyway, the CREATE funding is welcome.  The most critical part of CREATE (Englewood Flyover) was funded through the HSR funds.  This funds some other valuable bits.  Unfortunately it does not fund the two other major passenger projects (One is Grand Crossing; the other is the extensive rearrangement of the Belt Railway corridor so that along with freight enhancements Metra Southwest Service has an exclusive passenger path leading into the Rock Island corridor and LaSalle Street Station, freeing up slots in Union Station.)</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 19:58:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even freight-only investment can provide public benefits and therefore be worthy of public investment.  For example, investment to move truck traffic by rail will result in a  reduction in air pollution, reduction in traffic congestion, reduction in highway maintenance cost, reduction in energy consumption and foreign oil imports and avoided capital for extra highway lanes.  More of this good stuff will happen if the public pays for the public benefits.  It will leverage the RR&#039;s limited capital budget.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even freight-only investment can provide public benefits and therefore be worthy of public investment.  For example, investment to move truck traffic by rail will result in a  reduction in air pollution, reduction in traffic congestion, reduction in highway maintenance cost, reduction in energy consumption and foreign oil imports and avoided capital for extra highway lanes.  More of this good stuff will happen if the public pays for the public benefits.  It will leverage the RR&#8217;s limited capital budget.</p>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 16:39:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The freights ripped out doubletracks wherever they could, to escape local property taxes. The junior college tax, the water and sewerage district, the hospital tax, school district, city, and county all piled on, because, of course, railroads can&#039;t vote.

A real public-private partnership will require Amtrak or other government entity to own the second tracks on the private freight railroad&#039;s right of way. Otherwise, the feds send money to upgrade the lines, and the layers of local governments will promptly lay their property taxes on any improvements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The freights ripped out doubletracks wherever they could, to escape local property taxes. The junior college tax, the water and sewerage district, the hospital tax, school district, city, and county all piled on, because, of course, railroads can&#8217;t vote.</p>
<p>A real public-private partnership will require Amtrak or other government entity to own the second tracks on the private freight railroad&#8217;s right of way. Otherwise, the feds send money to upgrade the lines, and the layers of local governments will promptly lay their property taxes on any improvements.</p>
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		<title>By: Alon Levy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alon Levy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 08:47:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Railroads don&#039;t pay fuel tax. They can use tax-free gas, which is dyed red so that it&#039;ll be easy to detect cars using it, which is illegal. The same is true for farm machines.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Railroads don&#8217;t pay fuel tax. They can use tax-free gas, which is dyed red so that it&#8217;ll be easy to detect cars using it, which is illegal. The same is true for farm machines.</p>
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		<title>By: GordNY</title>
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		<dc:creator>GordNY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 04:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For some time I&#039;ve been wanting to say a few things in support of Federal grants toward private freight RRs. I have no financial interst the rail industry, in fact I work for a major urban transit system.  

While freight RR&#039;s have been doing better in the last few years than they have in decades, as a whole they still do not make enough of a return on investment to pay for major capital improvements to increase capacity, moderize signaling, develop new terminals, etc.  With the exception of a couple major routes leading east from west coast ports, and a few lines leading out of Wyoming coalfeilds, RRs have spent little to remove bottlenecks or raise speeds.  Dispite historic high rail freight traffic levels, timber bridges don&#039;t get replaced until they burn down and electrifacion remains a distant dream.  On some single-track western routes, RR&#039;s have been accused of de-marketing (i.e. not returning shippers pnone calls) low-value shipments like grain and lumber in favor of more lucative consumer goods.  They won&#039;t make engough additonal money to attract capital to double-track such lines.  

Since rail is extremely energy-efficient compared to trucks, and can take trucks of the highways, I think there are clear public benefits to goverment funding to increase capacity and reduce transit times on the freight rail network.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For some time I&#8217;ve been wanting to say a few things in support of Federal grants toward private freight RRs. I have no financial interst the rail industry, in fact I work for a major urban transit system.  </p>
<p>While freight RR&#8217;s have been doing better in the last few years than they have in decades, as a whole they still do not make enough of a return on investment to pay for major capital improvements to increase capacity, moderize signaling, develop new terminals, etc.  With the exception of a couple major routes leading east from west coast ports, and a few lines leading out of Wyoming coalfeilds, RRs have spent little to remove bottlenecks or raise speeds.  Dispite historic high rail freight traffic levels, timber bridges don&#8217;t get replaced until they burn down and electrifacion remains a distant dream.  On some single-track western routes, RR&#8217;s have been accused of de-marketing (i.e. not returning shippers pnone calls) low-value shipments like grain and lumber in favor of more lucative consumer goods.  They won&#8217;t make engough additonal money to attract capital to double-track such lines.  </p>
<p>Since rail is extremely energy-efficient compared to trucks, and can take trucks of the highways, I think there are clear public benefits to goverment funding to increase capacity and reduce transit times on the freight rail network.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric G.</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric G.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 23:42:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the info.  This is great news. 

Is there a good reason why the Tucson streetcar line turns so many corners?  It seems like that would slow it down, and have a bigger impact to traffic than running straight through the grid with one or two turns.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the info.  This is great news. </p>
<p>Is there a good reason why the Tucson streetcar line turns so many corners?  It seems like that would slow it down, and have a bigger impact to traffic than running straight through the grid with one or two turns.</p>
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		<title>By: DBX</title>
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		<dc:creator>DBX</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 21:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As long as freight railroads are paying property taxes on their rights of way that no other transportation providers have to pay, and as long as they&#039;re paying fuel taxes yet not getting highways in return, they deserve these grants -- and indeed these grants are necessary to establish the market efficiency of a level playing field between rail and road.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As long as freight railroads are paying property taxes on their rights of way that no other transportation providers have to pay, and as long as they&#8217;re paying fuel taxes yet not getting highways in return, they deserve these grants &#8212; and indeed these grants are necessary to establish the market efficiency of a level playing field between rail and road.</p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2010 15:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Corey-  Freight RRs are private.  The money for the private frt RR projects are Public-Private-Partnerships.  The public only pays for the public benefits (highway congestion relief, reduction in air pollution, passenger rail delay reduction/trip time reduction) associated with these projects.  The frt RRs pay the rest.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Corey-  Freight RRs are private.  The money for the private frt RR projects are Public-Private-Partnerships.  The public only pays for the public benefits (highway congestion relief, reduction in air pollution, passenger rail delay reduction/trip time reduction) associated with these projects.  The frt RRs pay the rest.</p>
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