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	<title>Comments on: China Expands Its Investment in Rapid Transit, Paving Way for Future Urban Growth</title>
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		<title>By: Woody</title>
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		<dc:creator>Woody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 19:29:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I thought we were talking about HSR here. Your comments are amusing in a sordid way, but very much Off Topic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I thought we were talking about HSR here. Your comments are amusing in a sordid way, but very much Off Topic.</p>
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		<title>By: laura gang</title>
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		<dc:creator>laura gang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Jul 2010 18:07:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America is the best country on earth, by far. All the other b.s. postings on this site are a result of jealousy towards America. China will never amount to anything than a smokin&#039; wreck with salary men eating cockroaches while the average Yank eats real ground beef. 
Americans drink untainted milk (with melamine)- The Chinese? They couldn&#039;t get untainted milk if they tried.

And Europe? Don&#039;t get me started? They never even learned how to wash themselves properly. The women still got hair on their legs and the men are cowards - ready to take Muslim terror-pork up their back-sides.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America is the best country on earth, by far. All the other b.s. postings on this site are a result of jealousy towards America. China will never amount to anything than a smokin&#8217; wreck with salary men eating cockroaches while the average Yank eats real ground beef.<br />
Americans drink untainted milk (with melamine)- The Chinese? They couldn&#8217;t get untainted milk if they tried.</p>
<p>And Europe? Don&#8217;t get me started? They never even learned how to wash themselves properly. The women still got hair on their legs and the men are cowards &#8211; ready to take Muslim terror-pork up their back-sides.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom West</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tom West</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 May 2010 18:10:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>saying that cars will be electric avoids the question of where the electricty will come from. China&#039;s electricity is mostly from coal, the most polluting form of electricity generation going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>saying that cars will be electric avoids the question of where the electricty will come from. China&#8217;s electricity is mostly from coal, the most polluting form of electricity generation going.</p>
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		<title>By: Yonah Freemark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yonah Freemark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 14:02:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks. Updated.</description>
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		<title>By: Ch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 03:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Most of China’s growth is concentrated in its large urban centers, which will house fifty percent of the country’s population by 2020 and 75% by 2050.&quot;

I think urban growth will be more rapid.

&quot;At the end of 2009, mainland China&#039;s total population was 1.334 billion, with 712 million (53.4%) and 622 million (46.6%) residing in the rural and urban areas respectively.[1]  (Mainland China does not include Hong Kong, Macao, or Taiwan.) The rural population fraction was 64% in 2001 and 74% in 1990. The annual population growth rate was estimated at 0.59% (2006 estimate).&quot;

From http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_in_China#cite_note-0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Most of China’s growth is concentrated in its large urban centers, which will house fifty percent of the country’s population by 2020 and 75% by 2050.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think urban growth will be more rapid.</p>
<p>&#8220;At the end of 2009, mainland China&#8217;s total population was 1.334 billion, with 712 million (53.4%) and 622 million (46.6%) residing in the rural and urban areas respectively.[1]  (Mainland China does not include Hong Kong, Macao, or Taiwan.) The rural population fraction was 64% in 2001 and 74% in 1990. The annual population growth rate was estimated at 0.59% (2006 estimate).&#8221;</p>
<p>From <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_in_China#cite_note-0" rel="nofollow">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urbanization_in_China#cite_note-0</a></p>
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		<title>By: Ch</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 May 2010 03:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lanxin_High-Speed_Railway

Construction began in November 2009 of the 1,776 km high speed rail between Lanzhou and Urumqi.  The trains will run at 350 km/h.  A hugely expensive project for a low population region.</description>
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<p>Construction began in November 2009 of the 1,776 km high speed rail between Lanzhou and Urumqi.  The trains will run at 350 km/h.  A hugely expensive project for a low population region.</p>
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		<title>By: Yonah Freemark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yonah Freemark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 17:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Care to identify errors? Chinese Wikipedia was one of my original sources. I would certainly change the map if I had a better clue of where I went wrong. Note that the mileage in yellow for the lines is what&#039;s planned for 2020, not long-term.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Care to identify errors? Chinese Wikipedia was one of my original sources. I would certainly change the map if I had a better clue of where I went wrong. Note that the mileage in yellow for the lines is what&#8217;s planned for 2020, not long-term.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 May 2010 14:03:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great map. But most long term plans aren&#039;t correct, as you can easily see checking the Chinese Wikipedia in 2 minutes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great map. But most long term plans aren&#8217;t correct, as you can easily see checking the Chinese Wikipedia in 2 minutes.</p>
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		<title>By: Yonah Freemark</title>
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		<dc:creator>Yonah Freemark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 11:25:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, you&#039;re right. Apologies. I&#039;ve made corrections above.

That doesn&#039;t diminish the extent of construction -- with 1,900 miles planned by 2015, China will have more than twice the rapid transit mileage compared to the United States. And most of those lines will have been built since 2000. The country is adapting rapidly to the needs of its urban constituency.

I should say, in response to what you said about the failings of the high-speed system, that it is interesting that almost all of the metro lines being built are in cities with high-speed service, as demonstrated by the map above. Also, though some rail stations are on the outskirts of the city, virtually every one of those metros is planned to stop directly at the high-speed stations.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, you&#8217;re right. Apologies. I&#8217;ve made corrections above.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t diminish the extent of construction &#8212; with 1,900 miles planned by 2015, China will have more than twice the rapid transit mileage compared to the United States. And most of those lines will have been built since 2000. The country is adapting rapidly to the needs of its urban constituency.</p>
<p>I should say, in response to what you said about the failings of the high-speed system, that it is interesting that almost all of the metro lines being built are in cities with high-speed service, as demonstrated by the map above. Also, though some rail stations are on the outskirts of the city, virtually every one of those metros is planned to stop directly at the high-speed stations.</p>
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		<title>By: Ethan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ethan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 05:56:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gordy: You have a point about the lack of accountability causing the building of useless objects, and China will have to avoid the fate of Japan, where vested interests in the government lead to roads, bridges, airports, and dams which are a huge waste of money.

But if China waits until it is economically viable to build railways and airports, it will cost many times more to build and maintain them. It&#039;s best to leverage the hoards of workers willing to work for a pittance when they still exist...and they will be drying up soon.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gordy: You have a point about the lack of accountability causing the building of useless objects, and China will have to avoid the fate of Japan, where vested interests in the government lead to roads, bridges, airports, and dams which are a huge waste of money.</p>
<p>But if China waits until it is economically viable to build railways and airports, it will cost many times more to build and maintain them. It&#8217;s best to leverage the hoards of workers willing to work for a pittance when they still exist&#8230;and they will be drying up soon.</p>
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