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		<title>By: Dorothy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dorothy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jun 2010 22:28:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the State of California the State Legislature titled Federal Highway funding for persons who could not afford to pay transportation fares to maintain employment and daily travel to the doctor, hospital, grecery stores, schools and colleges under the State of California State Public Utility Codes, Section 523.  This has been since the year 1911, President Wilson era.  Currently each ten years, the County of Los Angeles receives $25,000,000, 000, plus funding in addition to monies for the categorized persons stated, which is over $2,000,000,000 for Los Angeles County.  Fifty percent of Public Utility Code money may be taken by the local bus company for other purposes if they agree to pay the money back within three (3) years.  The categorized people never use any of the money.  Veterans return from duty, wars, on leave etc.  They are kicked off the bus, denied travel.  This has been over 100 years of your giving money to state legislatures.  Obviously, the local transport companies are using the money for some other purpose.  In Los Angeles County, we had the Rapid Transit District bus which is now the administration for the Metropolitan Transportation Authorities which according to Standard and Poors is under Metro Goldwyn Mayor, a George Murphy type enterprise.  

I want the California Public Utility Code Section 523 which was so titled to prove the money from the Federal Highway Administration had been accepted-received by the California State Legislature in accordance with Chapter 13 of the Federal Highway Commission.

In 2001-2002 Mean Date War Game activity,. the then U.S. Attorney General signed the State Public Utility Code 523 Statute page which was bound into the California State Public Utility Codes as well as the legislature as compliance.

The present legislative authority admits each session to being a War Game entity.  

I am requesting the name(s) of the Certified enforcing agency with the administrative names of the U.S. Congress and State Legislature
and local legislature be given to me.  Please send to 245 So. Lucas Avenue, No. 215, Los Angeles, California 90026.  Also, copy to my e-mail.   Thank you.

Dorothy Woodson</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the State of California the State Legislature titled Federal Highway funding for persons who could not afford to pay transportation fares to maintain employment and daily travel to the doctor, hospital, grecery stores, schools and colleges under the State of California State Public Utility Codes, Section 523.  This has been since the year 1911, President Wilson era.  Currently each ten years, the County of Los Angeles receives $25,000,000, 000, plus funding in addition to monies for the categorized persons stated, which is over $2,000,000,000 for Los Angeles County.  Fifty percent of Public Utility Code money may be taken by the local bus company for other purposes if they agree to pay the money back within three (3) years.  The categorized people never use any of the money.  Veterans return from duty, wars, on leave etc.  They are kicked off the bus, denied travel.  This has been over 100 years of your giving money to state legislatures.  Obviously, the local transport companies are using the money for some other purpose.  In Los Angeles County, we had the Rapid Transit District bus which is now the administration for the Metropolitan Transportation Authorities which according to Standard and Poors is under Metro Goldwyn Mayor, a George Murphy type enterprise.  </p>
<p>I want the California Public Utility Code Section 523 which was so titled to prove the money from the Federal Highway Administration had been accepted-received by the California State Legislature in accordance with Chapter 13 of the Federal Highway Commission.</p>
<p>In 2001-2002 Mean Date War Game activity,. the then U.S. Attorney General signed the State Public Utility Code 523 Statute page which was bound into the California State Public Utility Codes as well as the legislature as compliance.</p>
<p>The present legislative authority admits each session to being a War Game entity.  </p>
<p>I am requesting the name(s) of the Certified enforcing agency with the administrative names of the U.S. Congress and State Legislature<br />
and local legislature be given to me.  Please send to 245 So. Lucas Avenue, No. 215, Los Angeles, California 90026.  Also, copy to my e-mail.   Thank you.</p>
<p>Dorothy Woodson</p>
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		<title>By: Sam</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/06/08/asserting-state-responsibility-over-transportation-financing/#comment-47853</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 18:43:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A point that needs to be mentioned here.

In Oregon, all revenue from the state gas tax and vehicle registration fees (state and local) are constitutionally restricted for use in road construction and maintenance, and cannot be used for transit operations funding or capital investments.  Add on top of the lack of a statewide sales tax, and the cost of transit falls almost entirely on local funding sources.

Changing state DOT funding priorities is an important step, but in many states including Oregon, the first step involves the heavy lift of changing the state constitution to allow for the creation of 21st century multi-modal transportation systems.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A point that needs to be mentioned here.</p>
<p>In Oregon, all revenue from the state gas tax and vehicle registration fees (state and local) are constitutionally restricted for use in road construction and maintenance, and cannot be used for transit operations funding or capital investments.  Add on top of the lack of a statewide sales tax, and the cost of transit falls almost entirely on local funding sources.</p>
<p>Changing state DOT funding priorities is an important step, but in many states including Oregon, the first step involves the heavy lift of changing the state constitution to allow for the creation of 21st century multi-modal transportation systems.</p>
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		<title>By: Froggie</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/06/08/asserting-state-responsibility-over-transportation-financing/#comment-47830</link>
		<dc:creator>Froggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 14:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s been argued that Article 1, Section 8, Clause 7 of the Constitution is what gives Congress (and conversely the Feds) the authority to be in the &quot;transportation funding business&quot;, since that clause specifically gives Congress the authority to establish post roads (which was later expanded in that railroads are also considered &quot;post roads&quot;).  Not saying it&#039;s right or needs to be this way, but this is where Congress gets the authority to do so...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s been argued that Article 1, Section 8, Clause 7 of the Constitution is what gives Congress (and conversely the Feds) the authority to be in the &#8220;transportation funding business&#8221;, since that clause specifically gives Congress the authority to establish post roads (which was later expanded in that railroads are also considered &#8220;post roads&#8221;).  Not saying it&#8217;s right or needs to be this way, but this is where Congress gets the authority to do so&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Cullen</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/06/08/asserting-state-responsibility-over-transportation-financing/#comment-47772</link>
		<dc:creator>Cullen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 08:53:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In Pennsylvania, the State Police is funded directly out of the Motor Fund (fuel taxes mainly).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Pennsylvania, the State Police is funded directly out of the Motor Fund (fuel taxes mainly).</p>
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		<title>By: Yonah Freemark</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/06/08/asserting-state-responsibility-over-transportation-financing/#comment-47752</link>
		<dc:creator>Yonah Freemark</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 06:37:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bonds aren&#039;t a revenue source for the government as a whole, but they can be a revenue source for the DOT, if the DOT isn&#039;t responsible for paying back the loan, as is sometimes the case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bonds aren&#8217;t a revenue source for the government as a whole, but they can be a revenue source for the DOT, if the DOT isn&#8217;t responsible for paying back the loan, as is sometimes the case.</p>
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		<title>By: Adirondacker12800</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/06/08/asserting-state-responsibility-over-transportation-financing/#comment-47742</link>
		<dc:creator>Adirondacker12800</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 04:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;For example, a certain fraction should go to local police budgets.&lt;/em&gt;

.... of course I can&#039;t find a reference now. Something like 40 % of the police budget in urban areas goes to traffic control etc. In suburban and rural areas it flirts with 60% and sometimes goes as high as 75%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>For example, a certain fraction should go to local police budgets.</em></p>
<p>&#8230;. of course I can&#8217;t find a reference now. Something like 40 % of the police budget in urban areas goes to traffic control etc. In suburban and rural areas it flirts with 60% and sometimes goes as high as 75%.</p>
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		<title>By: Karl Tingwald</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/06/08/asserting-state-responsibility-over-transportation-financing/#comment-47723</link>
		<dc:creator>Karl Tingwald</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 09 Jun 2010 02:19:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only California realized that fallacy, Jarrett and Aaron. 

Also, the detachment of user fees in highway and road funding completely negates the argument by some conservative politicians that transit operating subsidies make it &quot;fiscally irresponsible&quot; to invest in new infrastructure. Their beloved highways are subsidized by general funds even more than most transit systems.

The bottom line is that all transportation in this country is heavily subsidized by the government, distorting economic incentives for consumers. This is true of air, long distance rail, highways and transit. People would be shocked if they could see the true costs of getting around as much as we do in America, no matter the mode choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only California realized that fallacy, Jarrett and Aaron. </p>
<p>Also, the detachment of user fees in highway and road funding completely negates the argument by some conservative politicians that transit operating subsidies make it &#8220;fiscally irresponsible&#8221; to invest in new infrastructure. Their beloved highways are subsidized by general funds even more than most transit systems.</p>
<p>The bottom line is that all transportation in this country is heavily subsidized by the government, distorting economic incentives for consumers. This is true of air, long distance rail, highways and transit. People would be shocked if they could see the true costs of getting around as much as we do in America, no matter the mode choice.</p>
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		<title>By: Jarrett at HumanTransit.org</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/06/08/asserting-state-responsibility-over-transportation-financing/#comment-47707</link>
		<dc:creator>Jarrett at HumanTransit.org</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:57:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m with Aaron.  Bonds are not a revenue source!  

My American bank always sends me statements that show not the balance on my credit card, but rather tha unused credit that remains under my limit.  They clearly want me to think of that as money I have in the bank.

As we can see, too many people, and governments, have fallen for that illusion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with Aaron.  Bonds are not a revenue source!  </p>
<p>My American bank always sends me statements that show not the balance on my credit card, but rather tha unused credit that remains under my limit.  They clearly want me to think of that as money I have in the bank.</p>
<p>As we can see, too many people, and governments, have fallen for that illusion.</p>
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		<title>By: BruceMcF</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/06/08/asserting-state-responsibility-over-transportation-financing/#comment-47705</link>
		<dc:creator>BruceMcF</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 22:50:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One element is increasing the range of automobile expenses covered by user fees. For example, a certain fraction should go to local police budgets. A certain fraction should go to public health care provision. A certain fraction should go to the general fund to reflect pollution externalities.

The cost of the roads themselves are certainly less than half of the external costs of driving, so allowing over half of the user fees to go to roadworks is clearly subsidizing drivers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One element is increasing the range of automobile expenses covered by user fees. For example, a certain fraction should go to local police budgets. A certain fraction should go to public health care provision. A certain fraction should go to the general fund to reflect pollution externalities.</p>
<p>The cost of the roads themselves are certainly less than half of the external costs of driving, so allowing over half of the user fees to go to roadworks is clearly subsidizing drivers.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/06/08/asserting-state-responsibility-over-transportation-financing/#comment-47682</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jun 2010 18:03:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post, Yohah; this issue -- does the federal government need to be in the transportation funding business at all -- really needs to be at the center of the discussion of the next federal transportation act.  The Section 1909 Commission took a crack at answering this question and, while it identified some legitimate national priorities (HSR; goods movement; interstate maintenance) around which to organize a new federal program, it didn&#039;t focus much on the idea that much of what the feds do in transportation can be taken up in its entirety by the states.  

I&#039;m not surprised, however, that there&#039;s no attention to scaling back the federal program and handing the rest back to the states.  Congress, of course, likes the influence that it gets from controlling a vast expenditure program, and environmentalists like having a place to turn to when states don&#039;t do what they want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post, Yohah; this issue &#8212; does the federal government need to be in the transportation funding business at all &#8212; really needs to be at the center of the discussion of the next federal transportation act.  The Section 1909 Commission took a crack at answering this question and, while it identified some legitimate national priorities (HSR; goods movement; interstate maintenance) around which to organize a new federal program, it didn&#8217;t focus much on the idea that much of what the feds do in transportation can be taken up in its entirety by the states.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;m not surprised, however, that there&#8217;s no attention to scaling back the federal program and handing the rest back to the states.  Congress, of course, likes the influence that it gets from controlling a vast expenditure program, and environmentalists like having a place to turn to when states don&#8217;t do what they want.</p>
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