Comments on: Urban Circulator Grants Promise Better Rail and Bus Service to a Select Group of Cities http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/07/08/urban-circulator-grants-promise-better-rail-and-bus-service-to-a-select-group-of-cities/ Sat, 11 Feb 2012 00:43:11 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Jake http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/07/08/urban-circulator-grants-promise-better-rail-and-bus-service-to-a-select-group-of-cities/#comment-52202 Jake Sun, 11 Jul 2010 00:42:02 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=7440#comment-52202 Why is Chicago doing a big busway like this? Why won't officials wake up and realize that streetcars have such a larger benefit than whatever Chicago's going to do. (It's not even BRT is it?) Chicago, of all cities, should know this. At one point they had the most extensive and heavily ridden streetcar system in the United States. Cities like Chicago are PERFECT for streetcars. Just like Cincinnati's urban core is perfect for a streetcar, so is Chicago's. Only difference is that it's like Cincinnati's times 1000. I wish cities would just go straight to the best bet, streetcars, and stop this roundabout stuff with busways. Why is Chicago doing a big busway like this? Why won’t officials wake up and realize that streetcars have such a larger benefit than whatever Chicago’s going to do. (It’s not even BRT is it?) Chicago, of all cities, should know this. At one point they had the most extensive and heavily ridden streetcar system in the United States. Cities like Chicago are PERFECT for streetcars. Just like Cincinnati’s urban core is perfect for a streetcar, so is Chicago’s. Only difference is that it’s like Cincinnati’s times 1000. I wish cities would just go straight to the best bet, streetcars, and stop this roundabout stuff with busways.

]]> By: Dan http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/07/08/urban-circulator-grants-promise-better-rail-and-bus-service-to-a-select-group-of-cities/#comment-52135 Dan Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:52:25 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=7440#comment-52135 So I guess we no longer have old fashioned streetcars. They are now urban circulators. Hmmmm. So I guess we no longer have old fashioned streetcars. They are now urban circulators. Hmmmm.

]]> By: BruceMcF http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/07/08/urban-circulator-grants-promise-better-rail-and-bus-service-to-a-select-group-of-cities/#comment-51908 BruceMcF Fri, 09 Jul 2010 15:32:51 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=7440#comment-51908 The conclusion does not follow from the premise ... one of the two Metrolink branches connects to one end of the loop, which extends more than a quarter mile or even half mile radius from that station, and the other Metrolink branch is one to two miles away from destinations in the Loop. A streetcar can compensate for that kind of partial transit connectivity while opening up new opportunities for walkable development. The conclusion does not follow from the premise … one of the two Metrolink branches connects to one end of the loop, which extends more than a quarter mile or even half mile radius from that station, and the other Metrolink branch is one to two miles away from destinations in the Loop.

A streetcar can compensate for that kind of partial transit connectivity while opening up new opportunities for walkable development.

]]> By: Ted King http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/07/08/urban-circulator-grants-promise-better-rail-and-bus-service-to-a-select-group-of-cities/#comment-51868 Ted King Fri, 09 Jul 2010 07:45:55 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=7440#comment-51868 <b>More on San Francisco's Phelan Loop -</b> The project is part of a series of upgrades along the Geneva Ave. corridor - <a href="http://www.sfmta.com/cms/mtps/tpsover.htm" rel="nofollow"> Transit Preferential Streets (TPS) </a>. Also, a few details from the San Francisco Chronicle - <a href="http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/blogs/cityinsider/detail?blogid=55&entry_id=67436" rel="nofollow"> "Muni snags nearly $7 million in federal funding" (8 July 2010) </a>. More on San Francisco’s Phelan Loop -
The project is part of a series of upgrades along the Geneva Ave. corridor – Transit Preferential Streets (TPS) . Also, a few details from the San Francisco Chronicle – “Muni snags nearly $7 million in federal funding” (8 July 2010) .

]]> By: Davsot http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/07/08/urban-circulator-grants-promise-better-rail-and-bus-service-to-a-select-group-of-cities/#comment-51821 Davsot Fri, 09 Jul 2010 01:49:17 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=7440#comment-51821 So San Juan got no money? So San Juan got no money?

]]> By: Dan http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/07/08/urban-circulator-grants-promise-better-rail-and-bus-service-to-a-select-group-of-cities/#comment-51820 Dan Fri, 09 Jul 2010 01:05:39 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=7440#comment-51820 That St.Louis proposal is awful. The loop already has really good transit access. In a city that has struggled for generations to improve the lives of it's impoverished citizens, it's just dumb to throw money at this non-problem. I assume this is basically a giveaway to Joe Edwards and his empire of Loop businesses. That St.Louis proposal is awful. The loop already has really good transit access. In a city that has struggled for generations to improve the lives of it’s impoverished citizens, it’s just dumb to throw money at this non-problem. I assume this is basically a giveaway to Joe Edwards and his empire of Loop businesses.

]]> By: Ted King http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/2010/07/08/urban-circulator-grants-promise-better-rail-and-bus-service-to-a-select-group-of-cities/#comment-51799 Ted King Thu, 08 Jul 2010 20:11:56 +0000 http://www.thetransportpolitic.com/?p=7440#comment-51799 Re : San Francisco's entry "Phelon Loop Bus Facility" s/b "Phelan Loop Bus Facility" This is located near Ocean and Phelan, across from City College of S.F., on the edge of the Ingleside neighborhood next to Balboa Park. The B.P. BART station is just a few blocks away. Re : San Francisco’s entry
“Phelon Loop Bus Facility”
s/b “Phelan Loop Bus Facility”
This is located near Ocean and Phelan, across from City College of S.F., on the edge of the Ingleside neighborhood next to Balboa Park. The B.P. BART station is just a few blocks away.

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