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	<title>Comments on: China Agrees to Major Investments in Argentina&#8217;s Rail and Metro Lines</title>
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		<title>By: Augusto</title>
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		<dc:creator>Augusto</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:49:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I see no facts that show proof of Jim&#039;s comment.  Most railways laid in Argentina were paid with grains sales to Britain and France.  Although I am no friend of Peron&#039;s economic policies, he realized more than the fair share had been paid, he decided to buy the railroad system at a huge deficit to the argentine state.  Respectfully, Jim get your facts right before you comment on any other country&#039;s affairs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I see no facts that show proof of Jim&#8217;s comment.  Most railways laid in Argentina were paid with grains sales to Britain and France.  Although I am no friend of Peron&#8217;s economic policies, he realized more than the fair share had been paid, he decided to buy the railroad system at a huge deficit to the argentine state.  Respectfully, Jim get your facts right before you comment on any other country&#8217;s affairs.</p>
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		<title>By: FG</title>
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		<dc:creator>FG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:18:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that natural resources and access to them is behind China&#039;s moves. It&#039;s the raison de etre for their massive investments in Afghanistan right now as well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that natural resources and access to them is behind China&#8217;s moves. It&#8217;s the raison de etre for their massive investments in Afghanistan right now as well.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, we didn&#039;t spend it on &quot;failed social programs&quot;.  The US spends damn near nothing on social programs, except for Social Security and Medicare.  Social Security certainly hasn&#039;t failed.  Medicare certainly hasn&#039;t failed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, we didn&#8217;t spend it on &#8220;failed social programs&#8221;.  The US spends damn near nothing on social programs, except for Social Security and Medicare.  Social Security certainly hasn&#8217;t failed.  Medicare certainly hasn&#8217;t failed.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:08:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heritage Foundation is not a legitimate research organization -- it&#039;s an agitprop organization run by, you guessed it, very wealthy Republicans.  Their claims regarding tax rates are self-serving bullshit.

It is true that the general wealth of the nation is more important to government revenues than the tax rates on the megarich.  It&#039;s also true that 90% taxes on the megarich would provide many billions of dollars of revenue.

It&#039;s also true that the megarich *spend less of their money* percentage-wise than poorer people.  It&#039;s also true that the faster money is spent, the richer the country is (this is the &quot;velocity of money&quot; concept in economics), because the money is getting used to make *real things* more often.  It&#039;s also, therefore, true that taking the the money of the mega-rich and giving it to the poor *increases the general wealth of the nation*.

And this effect is *huge*.  This effect, in fact, may be large enough to be the primary determiner of whether the country is in recession or not -- high tax rates on the rich == healthy economy.  There&#039;s a strong correlation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heritage Foundation is not a legitimate research organization &#8212; it&#8217;s an agitprop organization run by, you guessed it, very wealthy Republicans.  Their claims regarding tax rates are self-serving bullshit.</p>
<p>It is true that the general wealth of the nation is more important to government revenues than the tax rates on the megarich.  It&#8217;s also true that 90% taxes on the megarich would provide many billions of dollars of revenue.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s also true that the megarich *spend less of their money* percentage-wise than poorer people.  It&#8217;s also true that the faster money is spent, the richer the country is (this is the &#8220;velocity of money&#8221; concept in economics), because the money is getting used to make *real things* more often.  It&#8217;s also, therefore, true that taking the the money of the mega-rich and giving it to the poor *increases the general wealth of the nation*.</p>
<p>And this effect is *huge*.  This effect, in fact, may be large enough to be the primary determiner of whether the country is in recession or not &#8212; high tax rates on the rich == healthy economy.  There&#8217;s a strong correlation.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:04:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We pay enought in taxes why can’t the US pay for it’s own roads and rail lines they did in the 1930′s and the 1950′s? &quot;

A lot of it is going to pointless military spending.  The US now spends more on its military than the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED.  For real.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We pay enought in taxes why can’t the US pay for it’s own roads and rail lines they did in the 1930′s and the 1950′s? &#8221;</p>
<p>A lot of it is going to pointless military spending.  The US now spends more on its military than the ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD COMBINED.  For real.</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gives some hint that perhaps the USA&#039;s reputation wtihin the US isn&#039;t entirely accurate?

A more accurate assessment is that the US spends gajillions of dollars on military stuff and somehow can&#039;t quite get its act together to do anything else right.  Probably &#039;cause of the US Senate&#039;s insane supermajority rules (see Krugman&#039;s &quot;We Are Poland&quot; blog entry).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gives some hint that perhaps the USA&#8217;s reputation wtihin the US isn&#8217;t entirely accurate?</p>
<p>A more accurate assessment is that the US spends gajillions of dollars on military stuff and somehow can&#8217;t quite get its act together to do anything else right.  Probably &#8217;cause of the US Senate&#8217;s insane supermajority rules (see Krugman&#8217;s &#8220;We Are Poland&#8221; blog entry).</p>
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		<title>By: Nathanael</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nathanael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 01:01:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It *would* be a game changer if the US would freaking *commit* to public trasnportation.  China&#039;s happy to provide, shall we say, &quot;builder-financed loans&quot; for constructing mass transit, probably at slightly-below-market rates, but we in the US still have to provide the long-term revenue source, get the projects approved for eminent domain and regulatory purposes, and *agree* to borrow the money from China.  All hurdles which have not yet been passed by California (whose HSR China is quite interested in building), let alone anywhere else.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It *would* be a game changer if the US would freaking *commit* to public trasnportation.  China&#8217;s happy to provide, shall we say, &#8220;builder-financed loans&#8221; for constructing mass transit, probably at slightly-below-market rates, but we in the US still have to provide the long-term revenue source, get the projects approved for eminent domain and regulatory purposes, and *agree* to borrow the money from China.  All hurdles which have not yet been passed by California (whose HSR China is quite interested in building), let alone anywhere else.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:05:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, seeing as no one has taken the bait, I&#039;ll try to answer my own question.  My guess is that China has both foreign relations (&quot;economic imperialism,&quot; to put it in stark, and somewhat unfair, terms) and traditional &quot;investment return&quot; motivations.  In the U.S., there may be some toll road, seaport, freight rail, and high speed rail projects that could provide a reasonable rate of return and hence could attract Chinese capital.  Of course, they&#039;d be equally appealing to any other major infrastructure investor, unless there&#039;s also another benefit to China (maybe promoting a Chinese industry such as high speed rail manufacture), so maybe China would make a larger investment or take a lower interest rate than some other investor.  But probably only at the margin; they&#039;re not stupid and they&#039;re not going to rain money down on American projects just because we have a &quot;need&quot; for money.  So I guess I don&#039;t see Chinese investment being a game changer for the U.S.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, seeing as no one has taken the bait, I&#8217;ll try to answer my own question.  My guess is that China has both foreign relations (&#8220;economic imperialism,&#8221; to put it in stark, and somewhat unfair, terms) and traditional &#8220;investment return&#8221; motivations.  In the U.S., there may be some toll road, seaport, freight rail, and high speed rail projects that could provide a reasonable rate of return and hence could attract Chinese capital.  Of course, they&#8217;d be equally appealing to any other major infrastructure investor, unless there&#8217;s also another benefit to China (maybe promoting a Chinese industry such as high speed rail manufacture), so maybe China would make a larger investment or take a lower interest rate than some other investor.  But probably only at the margin; they&#8217;re not stupid and they&#8217;re not going to rain money down on American projects just because we have a &#8220;need&#8221; for money.  So I guess I don&#8217;t see Chinese investment being a game changer for the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Johhny</title>
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		<dc:creator>Johhny</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jul 2010 21:16:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>China is a builder not a chaos initiator. Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden and Iran&#039;s leader were all put into power by the USA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>China is a builder not a chaos initiator. Saddam Hussein, Bin Laden and Iran&#8217;s leader were all put into power by the USA.</p>
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		<title>By: serial catowner</title>
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		<dc:creator>serial catowner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jul 2010 16:19:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This year&#039;s war budget is $500 billion.  Tell me you couldn&#039;t do the same 10% cut on that budget that counties and states are doing all across the country this year.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This year&#8217;s war budget is $500 billion.  Tell me you couldn&#8217;t do the same 10% cut on that budget that counties and states are doing all across the country this year.</p>
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